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CrufflerJJ 07-09-2009 04:34 PM

Chinese Military (Riot Troops) Using Crossbows
 
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I saw this picture on the BBC website, and thought it was interesting that some of the Chinese military troops sent to quell riots carried scoped crossbows. I wonder what sort of "payload" these fire...

See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8139920.stm

It's image # 3 of 8 in the slideshow.

Rebel Yarr 07-09-2009 04:54 PM

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-crossbow.html

Despite the telescopic sights and gun-like triggers which give them more than a passing resemblance to a modern sniper rifle, the crossbows wielded by members of the military units operating in Urumqi retain a striking resemblance to their ancient counterparts.

A staple of warfare in mediaeval Europe, they are believed to have been used in China since about 400BC, appearing in Greece slightly later.
Although they are believed to have been first used for hunting, the military potential of the crossbow was quickly appreciated.

Firing short dart-like missiles known as bolts further and faster than a traditional bow, they proved capable even of piercing armour.

Modern varieties can fire sleek metallic bolts or bullets.

In Europe, crossbows were used by William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings, where they were said to penetrate English shields.

Replacing the longbow, they remained in use for a further 400 years, after which they were superseded by guns.

In China, large, catapult-like versions were developed, employing basic mechanics to string the bow, line up the bolt and fire it in a single motion.

The repeating crossbow was widely used until the late 19th Century

CrufflerJJ 07-09-2009 04:59 PM

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A friend sent me this link to some other discussion (& flaming) of Chinese military use of crossbows:

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=27125

Rebel Yarr 07-09-2009 05:38 PM

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Yeah - I was looking aroudn for non-lethal uses for a crossbow - but it seems anything that is none lethal a shotgun could do better. Crossbow seems odd this day in age.

It seems that the concensus in the thread you linked was... that crossbow's were pictured for the "cool" factor.

"wet dream for your average armchair mall ninja" lol.

rad 07-09-2009 07:33 PM

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cheaper than a suppressor and pistol

Dave Thomas 07-09-2009 07:33 PM

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Maybe they have a really blunt leather like sap head on them to deliver more of a "knock the wind" out of you blow.

Who knew the Chinese would ever adopt less than lethal technology.

^^^- Actually now that I think about it, who am I kidding, it probably silently delivers cyanide to the intended target.

The Chinese don't fvck around, it's probably the result of a snafu at the requisitioning office. :4_1_72:

Operation Grief 07-09-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rad (Post 1809721)
cheaper than a suppressor and pistol

Add cyanide like in The Wild Geese and you're good to go.

Juandisimo 07-09-2009 08:46 PM

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The guy with the crossbow in that picture looks JUST like the oriental dude who was such an a$$hole on the tee vee show Lost.(my mother buys me the dvds for Christmas every year.)

Quadroon 07-09-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Juandisimo (Post 1809835)
The guy with the crossbow in that picture looks JUST like the oriental dude who was such an a$$hole on the tee vee show Lost.(my mother buys me the dvds for Christmas every year.)

Well, you know what they say . . .

To me, the guy just seems to too happy, and friendly looking.

I mean, c'mon dude, you're a Chinese Communist riot cop, for chrissakes.
LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!

Victor 07-10-2009 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Operation Grief (Post 1809785)
Add cyanide like in The Wild Geese and you're good to go.

Sorry for the thread hijack but man I love that movie......Rafer Janders with a pistol in one pocket and a grenade in the other for balance....great movie.

Tallships 07-10-2009 10:02 AM

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Cross bow is awesome. Unfortunately mine is broken in a way that it would be cheaper to buy new than to fix.

MOD1 07-10-2009 11:50 AM

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Judging from past events, I bet there isn't a suction cup on the business end of those bolts.
Take care,
Mod1

____hoot____ 07-10-2009 10:24 PM

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Heard that some of the newest ones are shooting 3 moa groups. I can think of some applications.......................

PALLADIUM 07-11-2009 02:24 PM

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Maybe they're using modified arrows like Green Arrow uses:

http://www.bookofratings.com/arrows.html

http://www.bookofratings.com/img/title-arrows.jpg
GREEN ARROW'S ARROWS

Boxing Glove Arrow

The problems with a boxing glove on an arrow shaft are legion. There's the issue of aerodynamics, there's the general preciousness of hitting someone with a flying boxing glove, but the real problem is this: where does the hero keep it? Superhero quivers are typically sleek and streamlined, with no visible room for contrived clownlike armaments. I admit that this is a minor point of disbelief compared to flying men from doomed planets, but it still chafes me like cardboard overalls. D+

Boomerang Arrow

Comic book boomerangs, rather than being just sticks with a vague tendency to curve around, are nearly supernatural items with an ability to return where they started no matter what happens. They can bounce off the interestingly ridged skulls of alien conquerors, latch onto weapons or jewelry, or run off to the bar for a quick Jack and Coke, and yet still return to the waiting hand of whatever costumed goon threw it. The boomerang arrow is basically the same thing, only rather than simply ignoring physics, it drags physics home, chains it up in the crawlspace, and feeds it cockroaches and detached pigeon toes. C-

Net Arrow

It seems like a lot of trouble to adapt a remarkably effective killing tool into an essentially harmless device for capturing and rehabilitating the criminally inclined. If you don't want to hurt the enemy, why not start out with something basically harmless to begin with, like a snow globe or an office chair? But no, they've got to go with the arrows, leading to this odd device that somehow manages to sense the precise moment when it's passing over fleeing ruffians, capturing them like a daddy longlegs under the glass tumbler of a soft-hearted housewife. C+

Explosive Arrow

Now we're talking. I'm not saying I want exploding dismembered bodies flying around my comic books -- although I'm sure the market is out there -- I'm just saying that part of the fun is knowing that the superhero in question could reduce your basic jewel thief to ruffian pat�, but doesn't out of a sense of personal honor and a lingering nostalgia for the Comics Code. So even if explosive arrows end up being used solely on walls and robot drones, I'm glad to know they're there. A

Drill Arrow

This fits into the category of "arrows that really don't need to be arrows." There's precious little call for long-distance carpentry. Most people who need to make a birdhouse or a replica colonial rocking chair or something are pretty content to actually be next to the item they're drilling. I'm sure there are some situations where Green Arrow really needed to drill from a distance, but there were also times when it was really handy that Aquaman could tell tuna what to do. The word is "contrived." C

Golddust 07-11-2009 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PALLADIUM (Post 1812345)
Maybe they're using modified arrows like Green Arrow uses:

http://www.bookofratings.com/arrows.html

http://www.bookofratings.com/img/title-arrows.jpg
GREEN ARROW'S ARROWS

Boxing Glove Arrow

The problems with a boxing glove on an arrow shaft are legion. There's the issue of aerodynamics, there's the general preciousness of hitting someone with a flying boxing glove, but the real problem is this: where does the hero keep it? Superhero quivers are typically sleek and streamlined, with no visible room for contrived clownlike armaments. I admit that this is a minor point of disbelief compared to flying men from doomed planets, but it still chafes me like cardboard overalls. D+

Boomerang Arrow

Comic book boomerangs, rather than being just sticks with a vague tendency to curve around, are nearly supernatural items with an ability to return where they started no matter what happens. They can bounce off the interestingly ridged skulls of alien conquerors, latch onto weapons or jewelry, or run off to the bar for a quick Jack and Coke, and yet still return to the waiting hand of whatever costumed goon threw it. The boomerang arrow is basically the same thing, only rather than simply ignoring physics, it drags physics home, chains it up in the crawlspace, and feeds it cockroaches and detached pigeon toes. C-

Net Arrow

It seems like a lot of trouble to adapt a remarkably effective killing tool into an essentially harmless device for capturing and rehabilitating the criminally inclined. If you don't want to hurt the enemy, why not start out with something basically harmless to begin with, like a snow globe or an office chair? But no, they've got to go with the arrows, leading to this odd device that somehow manages to sense the precise moment when it's passing over fleeing ruffians, capturing them like a daddy longlegs under the glass tumbler of a soft-hearted housewife. C+

Explosive Arrow

Now we're talking. I'm not saying I want exploding dismembered bodies flying around my comic books -- although I'm sure the market is out there -- I'm just saying that part of the fun is knowing that the superhero in question could reduce your basic jewel thief to ruffian pat�, but doesn't out of a sense of personal honor and a lingering nostalgia for the Comics Code. So even if explosive arrows end up being used solely on walls and robot drones, I'm glad to know they're there. A

Drill Arrow

This fits into the category of "arrows that really don't need to be arrows." There's precious little call for long-distance carpentry. Most people who need to make a birdhouse or a replica colonial rocking chair or something are pretty content to actually be next to the item they're drilling. I'm sure there are some situations where Green Arrow really needed to drill from a distance, but there were also times when it was really handy that Aquaman could tell tuna what to do. The word is "contrived." C

NOT....!!!



Man that is a LOVE ARROW...:rose:







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